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Sarah Milstein talks to Scott Hanselman about leading engineers as a non-engineer. They discuss how to build trust with engineers and how to communicate effectively with them. They also talk about how to manage technical projects when you’re not a technical person yourself. Sarah Milstein is the VP of Engineering at Daily, a WebRTC Video PaaS. She's also the co-founder of Lean Startup Productions and the author of The Twitter Book.